1 00:00:11,850 --> 00:00:15,320 Seattle, a city with a collective identity 2 00:00:15,350 --> 00:00:18,820 constantly in flux, always changing, 3 00:00:18,850 --> 00:00:21,750 but what it's always been and continues to be 4 00:00:21,780 --> 00:00:24,520 is a magnet for creators to come experiment 5 00:00:24,550 --> 00:00:26,080 and to make their own. 6 00:00:29,620 --> 00:00:34,150 Whoa, and weed is legal here. 7 00:00:34,180 --> 00:00:35,720 ♪ I took a walk 8 00:00:35,750 --> 00:00:39,680 ♪ Through this beautiful world 9 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,880 ♪ Felt the cool rain on my shoulder 10 00:00:46,020 --> 00:00:47,520 ♪ Found something good 11 00:00:47,550 --> 00:00:51,420 ♪ In this beautiful world 12 00:00:51,450 --> 00:00:55,720 ♪ I felt the rain getting colder 13 00:00:57,380 --> 00:01:03,420 ♪ Sha la la-la-la ♪ Sha la la-la-la-la 14 00:01:03,450 --> 00:01:10,980 ♪ Sha la la-la-la ♪ Sha la la-la-la-la la 15 00:01:31,450 --> 00:01:33,680 Seattle has always been a place 16 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,680 where you can go to reinvent yourself. 17 00:01:37,020 --> 00:01:38,720 It's a place that, on the surface, 18 00:01:38,750 --> 00:01:40,850 would seem to require commitment. 19 00:01:42,380 --> 00:01:46,150 Famously gray, rainy, not particularly friendly, 20 00:01:46,180 --> 00:01:48,420 and all the way up there 21 00:01:48,450 --> 00:01:51,080 in the far corner of the country, 22 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,356 a place where you could get work in the aircraft industry 23 00:01:53,380 --> 00:01:56,580 or make music or, rather notoriously, 24 00:01:56,620 --> 00:01:58,980 become a serial killer. 25 00:01:59,020 --> 00:02:02,680 Whether outfitting prospectors during the Alaskan gold rush 26 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,950 or looking for some kind of cred from the music scene... 27 00:02:07,550 --> 00:02:10,350 it's always boom or bust. 28 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,420 Now, it's a new kind of boom. 29 00:02:14,450 --> 00:02:19,150 Microsoft, Google, Twitter, Expedia, and Amazon 30 00:02:19,180 --> 00:02:21,250 are the big dogs in town. 31 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,250 A flood of them, tech industry workers, 32 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,020 mostly male, 33 00:02:25,050 --> 00:02:27,920 derisively referred to as tech boys or tech bros, 34 00:02:27,950 --> 00:02:30,850 rapidly changing the DNA of the city, 35 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,150 rewiring it to satisfy their own newly empowered 36 00:02:34,180 --> 00:02:35,980 nerdly appetites. 37 00:02:36,020 --> 00:02:39,650 Meet our new apple martini-drinking overlords. 38 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,720 - Tech boys - Tech boys 39 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:49,980 Tech boys Tech boys - Tech boys - Tech boys 40 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,720 - Tech boys - Tech boys 41 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,980 With your mustache and your paycheck 42 00:03:00,020 --> 00:03:04,220 And your blue badge And your limp dick 43 00:03:04,250 --> 00:03:08,050 With your mouth full of the party line 44 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,150 And your weekends working overtime 45 00:03:12,180 --> 00:03:14,820 Overtime, overtime, overtime, overtime 46 00:03:14,850 --> 00:03:17,050 Fish and chips is the thing, right? 47 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,650 - That's the thing. - Yeah. 48 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,820 Astra Elane and Dustin Patterson 49 00:03:20,850 --> 00:03:23,680 are members of the local band The Gods Themselves. 50 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,080 They wrote a song about the new kids in town. 51 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,520 Okay. 52 00:03:27,550 --> 00:03:29,750 Pacific Inn Pub is a holdout, 53 00:03:29,780 --> 00:03:31,520 a place that has, so far, 54 00:03:31,550 --> 00:03:33,250 managed to resist the temptation 55 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,520 to appease the invaders. 56 00:03:35,550 --> 00:03:37,480 For lunch, fish and chips. 57 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,020 Tech boys 58 00:03:39,050 --> 00:03:40,850 You know, bitter old... like me, of course, 59 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,080 are gonna complain any time we hear about, you know, 60 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,820 a lot of high-fiving white guys coming to town. 61 00:03:45,850 --> 00:03:48,850 And yet, you've created this sort of iconic hate anthem 62 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,820 Can you tell the tech people from the non-tech people? 63 00:03:51,850 --> 00:03:53,480 Yeah, they have the badges. 64 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,380 Tech boys Neutral-colored clothing. 65 00:03:57,420 --> 00:03:59,020 Tech boys 66 00:03:59,050 --> 00:04:01,020 They're kind of easy to spot. They have a walk. 67 00:04:01,050 --> 00:04:02,480 - They have a walk? - Yeah. 68 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,720 They're just all the same. 69 00:04:04,750 --> 00:04:07,980 There's nothing that really stands out about them. 70 00:04:08,020 --> 00:04:09,980 They're so dull. 71 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,480 Feel that rhythm that algorithm 72 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,380 You gotta feel that rhythm 73 00:04:16,420 --> 00:04:18,980 That algorithm tech boys 74 00:04:19,020 --> 00:04:21,050 You know, dating apps are really big here. 75 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,180 I have a few girlfriends... That's right. 76 00:04:24,220 --> 00:04:25,526 Who have dated a couple of tech boys. 77 00:04:25,550 --> 00:04:27,550 Is their personal hygiene an issue? 78 00:04:27,580 --> 00:04:31,050 Like, the nerdier tech boys will have that smell, 79 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,820 that mildewy smell. Yeah. 80 00:04:32,850 --> 00:04:35,580 You know what I'm talking about? 81 00:04:35,620 --> 00:04:38,480 Wow, you really have a low opinion of these people. 82 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,820 Well, we're generalizing now, Tony. 83 00:04:40,850 --> 00:04:42,680 No, I'm all for that. 84 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,650 Everybody in Seattle is a musician, 85 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,980 a serial killer, or a chef as far as I'm concerned so... 86 00:04:51,950 --> 00:04:54,420 In a lot of ways, I mean, this was always a company town. 87 00:04:54,450 --> 00:04:58,250 You know, Boeing, before Boeing, it was a logging town. 88 00:04:58,280 --> 00:05:00,150 And the new company is tech, 89 00:05:00,180 --> 00:05:02,850 and it is flooding money into the place. 90 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,650 I looked out my hotel window and, I mean, 91 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,980 it's cranes as far as the eye can see. 92 00:05:07,020 --> 00:05:09,150 You realize, like, okay, all those cranes out there, 93 00:05:09,180 --> 00:05:10,580 they're for high-rise condos. 94 00:05:10,620 --> 00:05:12,650 They're for a certain type of person. 95 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,180 They're envisioning a certain type of future for the city 96 00:05:15,220 --> 00:05:16,820 and it's tech people. 97 00:05:16,850 --> 00:05:19,380 Or, you know, somebody who likes to drive around 98 00:05:19,420 --> 00:05:20,996 and pick up hitchhikers and dismember them. 99 00:05:21,020 --> 00:05:24,050 Yeah. 100 00:05:27,250 --> 00:05:30,220 Capitol Hill is Seattle's established gay-borhood 101 00:05:30,250 --> 00:05:32,580 going back to the mid-1960s, 102 00:05:32,620 --> 00:05:35,980 old-school cool, but with every passing day, 103 00:05:36,020 --> 00:05:37,880 change. 104 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,520 The Hill has become the new weekend stomping ground 105 00:05:40,550 --> 00:05:42,380 of breeders from the tech companies, 106 00:05:42,420 --> 00:05:45,350 and the locals are displeased. 107 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,920 John Criscitello, street artist, 108 00:05:48,950 --> 00:05:51,020 is waging a one-man war against the rent hikes 109 00:05:51,050 --> 00:05:54,080 that are pushing people like him out of the neighborhood. 110 00:05:56,250 --> 00:05:58,980 Are we talking about an infestation of tech bros? 111 00:05:59,020 --> 00:06:00,720 Is this... 112 00:06:00,750 --> 00:06:02,396 What, ten years ago, would this be a gay neighborhood? 113 00:06:02,420 --> 00:06:04,980 It was sort of unclaimed for artists 114 00:06:05,020 --> 00:06:06,320 and for queer people. 115 00:06:06,350 --> 00:06:07,920 And so what's happening now? 116 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:10,520 Big tech corporations that have moved into the city 117 00:06:10,550 --> 00:06:12,480 and people needed someplace to live, so a lot of 118 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,750 development companies bought up every corner. 119 00:06:14,780 --> 00:06:18,380 If they keep this sort of facade, they can build taller. 120 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:20,080 - Ah. - So this was just this 121 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,996 and then they plunked this down in the center of it. 122 00:06:22,020 --> 00:06:24,350 So they're keeping the character of the neighborhood 123 00:06:24,380 --> 00:06:25,726 sort of kind of. They call it facadomy. 124 00:06:25,750 --> 00:06:28,150 I've heard it termed facadomy. 125 00:06:29,750 --> 00:06:32,250 The problem, of course, is that rents double. 126 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:34,380 - Right. - So you used to be able 127 00:06:34,420 --> 00:06:36,650 to get a studio apartment for $700. 128 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,550 Now, all of a sudden the entry point is $1,500, 129 00:06:39,580 --> 00:06:42,650 which is considerable for artists, anybody. 130 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,080 You know, that's the sort of lament now is, 131 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,380 where are you gonna go? Where are you gonna go? 132 00:06:47,420 --> 00:06:49,020 - Yeah. - Where are you gonna go? 133 00:06:49,050 --> 00:06:50,420 Right. 134 00:06:50,450 --> 00:06:51,820 So all these outsiders coming in 135 00:06:51,850 --> 00:06:53,680 are renting expensive apartments. 136 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,556 What kind of businesses are opening to accommodate 137 00:06:55,580 --> 00:06:57,496 these new arrivals? Well, in this neighborhood, 138 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,150 that construction over on that side is a Whole Foods. 139 00:07:00,180 --> 00:07:01,880 Oh, no, that's a sign of the apocalypse. 140 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,726 - That is the end. - That... that's the official 141 00:07:03,750 --> 00:07:05,480 indicator that this neighborhood is... 142 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,680 That is the end. That's it right there. 143 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,920 Because of the boom 144 00:07:19,950 --> 00:07:21,820 and everything that's been happening, 145 00:07:21,850 --> 00:07:24,650 you do have that kind of have and have nots here. 146 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,720 And I think there's an identity crisis 147 00:07:26,750 --> 00:07:28,326 where people are starting to really question 148 00:07:28,350 --> 00:07:30,220 what is Seattle and who is it? 149 00:07:30,250 --> 00:07:32,480 But historically, you go back to the '90s, 150 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,480 I mean, it was the city of grunge. 151 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,550 And now, I would say it's the city of geeks. 152 00:07:36,580 --> 00:07:38,980 It's... it's... it's boom town right now. 153 00:07:39,020 --> 00:07:41,520 And yeah, this kind of boom does happen in other places, 154 00:07:41,550 --> 00:07:43,180 but then again, it doesn't. 155 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,580 John Cook and Todd Bishop of GeekWire, 156 00:07:48,620 --> 00:07:50,480 an industry-leading news site 157 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,320 that started covering the tech industry 158 00:07:52,350 --> 00:07:55,320 back in 2011. 159 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:58,680 Lunch is at Revel right down the street from their offices. 160 00:08:00,020 --> 00:08:03,480 The chef is Rachel Yang and the food is Korean. 161 00:08:13,350 --> 00:08:15,650 To eat, cilantro noodles, 162 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,850 yu choy, and thinly sliced flat iron steak... 163 00:08:25,620 --> 00:08:28,150 Kimchi pancakes with braised pork belly 164 00:08:28,180 --> 00:08:29,920 and bean sprouts... 165 00:08:32,220 --> 00:08:34,080 Marinated short rib rice bowl 166 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,150 with house sambal daikon, kimchi, and egg. 167 00:08:40,680 --> 00:08:42,380 And short rib dumplings topped with 168 00:08:42,420 --> 00:08:44,920 pickled shallot and scallion salad. 169 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:53,550 Of course, I'm hearing from a lot of people 170 00:08:53,580 --> 00:08:56,480 who are bemoaning the loss of the old Seattle... 171 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:57,650 Right. 172 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:00,320 This invasion of outsiders. 173 00:09:00,350 --> 00:09:01,556 Certainly the community is going through 174 00:09:01,580 --> 00:09:03,080 a lot of growing pains 175 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,480 and there's an element of the city here 176 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,020 that is rebelling against the progress, 177 00:09:08,050 --> 00:09:10,350 especially as we talk about a company like Amazon 178 00:09:10,380 --> 00:09:12,220 that controls massive amounts 179 00:09:12,250 --> 00:09:14,320 of the downtown real estate footprint now. 180 00:09:14,350 --> 00:09:16,150 And that's what scares a lot of people here, 181 00:09:16,180 --> 00:09:17,650 including myself. 182 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:21,150 Because I see how the trends of history change, 183 00:09:21,180 --> 00:09:22,980 especially in technology, 184 00:09:23,020 --> 00:09:25,820 that one day Microsoft's hot, the next day Apple's hot, 185 00:09:25,850 --> 00:09:26,980 now Amazon's hot. 186 00:09:27,020 --> 00:09:28,320 They go through these cycles 187 00:09:28,350 --> 00:09:29,920 and they don't always live through them, 188 00:09:29,950 --> 00:09:31,680 and we're left with a city 189 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,420 that's totally transformed because of it. 190 00:09:34,450 --> 00:09:37,650 What percentage of the total dollar-generating space 191 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:40,650 on the Internet is occupied by porn? 192 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:42,480 Well, you know, 193 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,820 this is Todd's expertise so I'll defer to him. 194 00:09:44,850 --> 00:09:46,650 Historically the adult industry, 195 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:49,050 even if it's not completely dominating the economics 196 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,420 all the time, it is the... The leader of technology. 197 00:09:52,450 --> 00:09:54,150 It... it's the first with HD. 198 00:09:54,180 --> 00:09:57,250 It's the first to try out a new wave of 3-D technology. 199 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,520 Virtual reality, augmented reality, 200 00:09:59,550 --> 00:10:01,150 and then you see it over and over again, 201 00:10:01,180 --> 00:10:02,720 the latest is VR now. 202 00:10:02,750 --> 00:10:04,580 Yeah. Do you know the... 203 00:10:04,620 --> 00:10:07,480 Do you know the number one search term on porn websites 204 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,850 for the Seattle area? 205 00:10:15,580 --> 00:10:16,650 Stepmom. 206 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:23,320 Who wants to... their stepmom? 207 00:10:26,550 --> 00:10:28,680 Jesus. 208 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,250 Jen McEwen and Jesse Adams are two nice people 209 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,550 who've chosen the porn business 210 00:10:33,580 --> 00:10:35,080 as a way to make a living. 211 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,920 They launched MiKandi, 212 00:10:36,950 --> 00:10:39,750 the world's first mobile app store 213 00:10:39,780 --> 00:10:41,820 for masturbators and aficionados 214 00:10:41,850 --> 00:10:43,550 of graphic erotica. 215 00:10:43,580 --> 00:10:45,550 But they are looking ahead, 216 00:10:45,580 --> 00:10:47,520 the next levels of porn... 217 00:10:47,550 --> 00:10:51,150 Personalized, interactive, virtual reality porn. 218 00:10:51,180 --> 00:10:52,680 I'm gonna tease you. 219 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,250 And I can tell you, my friends, 220 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,180 it's chillingly realistic. 221 00:10:59,354 --> 00:11:01,654 Generally speaking, who are your customers 222 00:11:01,694 --> 00:11:03,524 demographically? 223 00:11:03,554 --> 00:11:05,830 Mostly male, but, yeah, it's really from all over the world. 224 00:11:05,854 --> 00:11:07,354 Right. 225 00:11:07,394 --> 00:11:09,324 They're looking for more unique experiences 226 00:11:09,354 --> 00:11:11,370 and I think that's why VR is very important for them. 227 00:11:11,394 --> 00:11:13,224 And just also a lot of people who say 228 00:11:13,254 --> 00:11:15,924 they discovered their sexuality and their identity 229 00:11:15,954 --> 00:11:17,354 through stuff like this. 230 00:11:17,394 --> 00:11:19,894 What the adult industry is really good at 231 00:11:19,924 --> 00:11:21,824 is whatever your specific interest is, 232 00:11:21,854 --> 00:11:23,224 we'll find the exact person for you 233 00:11:23,254 --> 00:11:24,854 or the exact piece of content. 234 00:11:24,894 --> 00:11:26,154 Like... like Amazon does. 235 00:11:26,194 --> 00:11:27,754 - Yeah. - So, Tony, based on 236 00:11:27,794 --> 00:11:29,924 your previous purchases, you know, we can recommend 237 00:11:29,954 --> 00:11:31,694 the following stepmom-related materials. 238 00:11:31,724 --> 00:11:33,024 Yeah. 239 00:11:33,054 --> 00:11:34,654 Do you want to see some VR porn? 240 00:11:34,694 --> 00:11:36,254 - Yeah. - Yeah. 241 00:11:39,354 --> 00:11:41,424 All right. 242 00:11:44,854 --> 00:11:46,324 Okay. 243 00:11:53,854 --> 00:11:55,324 Oh, my God, here we go. 244 00:11:56,454 --> 00:11:58,224 Now, should I look behind me? 245 00:11:58,254 --> 00:12:00,354 'Cause I don't want to get spit roasted here. Okay. 246 00:12:02,354 --> 00:12:04,524 Hey there. 247 00:12:04,554 --> 00:12:06,654 Wow. 248 00:12:06,694 --> 00:12:08,024 Yeah, that's kinda scary. 249 00:12:17,954 --> 00:12:19,394 It's good. 250 00:12:29,854 --> 00:12:33,094 Weed, smoke, ganja, reefer, 251 00:12:33,124 --> 00:12:35,254 call it what you will, it's marijuana. 252 00:12:35,294 --> 00:12:38,854 Oh, I could go on all day. 253 00:12:38,894 --> 00:12:40,754 Long story short, Washington State 254 00:12:40,794 --> 00:12:43,094 legalized weed in 2012, 255 00:12:43,124 --> 00:12:45,354 and I plan to make the most of it 256 00:12:45,394 --> 00:12:47,754 while scrupulously adhering to the lay of the law 257 00:12:47,794 --> 00:12:48,854 like I always do. 258 00:12:51,194 --> 00:12:54,094 The options available in places like this, 259 00:12:54,124 --> 00:12:56,024 Emerald Haze, are mind-boggling. 260 00:12:58,454 --> 00:12:59,924 Well, how can I help you out today? 261 00:12:59,954 --> 00:13:02,994 Well, I... Where to begin? 262 00:13:03,024 --> 00:13:05,494 Where to begin? 263 00:13:05,524 --> 00:13:07,854 There is a dizzying array of products. 264 00:13:07,894 --> 00:13:09,554 You got dozens of strains of bud, 265 00:13:09,594 --> 00:13:12,194 oils to vape, weed-infused edibles, 266 00:13:12,224 --> 00:13:14,354 mints, syrups, ointments, 267 00:13:14,394 --> 00:13:16,494 probably lube. Remind me to ask. 268 00:13:16,524 --> 00:13:20,324 My advice, don't even try to shop stoned. 269 00:13:20,354 --> 00:13:22,754 Decision making was never, in my case, a strong point 270 00:13:22,794 --> 00:13:24,154 while baked. 271 00:13:24,194 --> 00:13:27,254 Which... which... Which is sleepy... 272 00:13:27,294 --> 00:13:30,194 I forget, is it indica or sativa that's peppy 273 00:13:30,224 --> 00:13:31,994 and the other one is sleepy? 274 00:13:32,024 --> 00:13:34,154 The indica will put you "inda" couch. 275 00:13:34,194 --> 00:13:35,424 - On the couch. - It's gonna be 276 00:13:35,454 --> 00:13:37,154 your sleepy body high. Right. 277 00:13:37,194 --> 00:13:39,894 Sativa is gonna be more of your awake alert high 278 00:13:39,924 --> 00:13:41,354 kind of mostly feeling in the head. 279 00:13:41,394 --> 00:13:43,354 Right, like crouched in the bathroom 280 00:13:43,394 --> 00:13:45,054 in the fetal position paranoid or what? 281 00:13:45,094 --> 00:13:46,354 Not like that crazy. 282 00:13:46,394 --> 00:13:47,824 Yeah, no, okay, good. 283 00:13:47,854 --> 00:13:50,024 I think let's do some of both. 284 00:13:50,054 --> 00:13:51,324 - Some of both? - Yeah. 285 00:13:51,354 --> 00:13:53,424 What do you have on offer here? 286 00:13:53,454 --> 00:13:55,100 We do have a deal on our pack of three today... 287 00:13:55,124 --> 00:13:57,854 - Mm-hmm. - From Hollingsworth, 288 00:13:57,894 --> 00:14:01,194 which they had the Blueberry Kush... 289 00:14:01,224 --> 00:14:02,694 - Yes. - The Alaskan Thunder... 290 00:14:02,724 --> 00:14:04,694 and then also a Dutch Treat, 291 00:14:04,724 --> 00:14:06,194 which will be more of a hybrid. 292 00:14:06,224 --> 00:14:08,824 I mean, I have to... Alaskan Thunder... 293 00:14:08,854 --> 00:14:10,094 I mean, you kind have to. 294 00:14:10,124 --> 00:14:11,530 This... this is from our friends at... 295 00:14:11,554 --> 00:14:14,154 Yeah, these are from Hollingsworth, 296 00:14:14,194 --> 00:14:16,054 which is very nice. 297 00:14:24,124 --> 00:14:26,094 Two hours outside of Seattle 298 00:14:26,124 --> 00:14:28,494 lies Hollingsworth Cannabis Company Farm. 299 00:14:28,524 --> 00:14:32,894 The woods are alive with, well, weed. 300 00:14:32,924 --> 00:14:35,694 Rows and rows of weed 301 00:14:35,724 --> 00:14:39,054 carefully grown and tended to by one family, 302 00:14:39,094 --> 00:14:42,824 third generation Seattleites the Hollingsworths. 303 00:14:42,854 --> 00:14:45,824 And at the helm of the company, these guys, 304 00:14:45,854 --> 00:14:49,824 brother and sister duo, Raft and Joy Hollingsworth. 305 00:14:49,854 --> 00:14:51,524 Oh, hi! Didn't see you there. 306 00:14:51,554 --> 00:14:54,324 Wait, hold on. Oh, hi. Didn't see you there. 307 00:14:54,354 --> 00:14:56,054 - Didn't see you there. - Let me say that. 308 00:14:56,094 --> 00:14:57,654 Then you say the rest of the shit. 309 00:14:57,694 --> 00:14:59,854 - No, I can't remember... - Okay, we're gonna do it. 310 00:14:59,894 --> 00:15:01,000 I'm Joy Hollingsworth. I got it. 311 00:15:01,024 --> 00:15:02,754 Oh, hi. Say it, say it. 312 00:15:02,794 --> 00:15:05,654 Let's take a... let's take a closer look, shall we? 313 00:15:09,694 --> 00:15:11,854 While some corporate outfits are rushing to cash in 314 00:15:11,894 --> 00:15:14,354 on the new crop, the Hollingsworth Cannabis Company 315 00:15:14,394 --> 00:15:17,354 is doing it a slower, more personal way. 316 00:15:17,394 --> 00:15:19,224 Solar-powered greenhouses, 317 00:15:19,254 --> 00:15:21,924 hand-trimmed buds, and hand-packed bags 318 00:15:21,954 --> 00:15:25,724 ensure the freshest and highest quality of product. 319 00:15:25,754 --> 00:15:27,554 They're keeping it all in the family. 320 00:15:27,594 --> 00:15:30,324 Raft runs the manufacturing and growing. 321 00:15:30,354 --> 00:15:32,824 Joy does the processing and sales. 322 00:15:32,854 --> 00:15:34,354 Auntie came out of retirement 323 00:15:34,394 --> 00:15:36,024 to assist with the oil cartridges. 324 00:15:36,054 --> 00:15:38,324 Dad puts labels on the packaging, 325 00:15:38,354 --> 00:15:40,154 and mom fills the rolls 326 00:15:40,194 --> 00:15:41,854 and assists in quality control... 327 00:15:41,894 --> 00:15:43,354 That's fine, that's fine. 328 00:15:43,394 --> 00:15:46,324 As I will and have and will again. 329 00:15:55,224 --> 00:15:59,694 Back in the city, Mamnoon Restaurant on Melrose. 330 00:15:59,724 --> 00:16:01,324 Have you been here before? 331 00:16:01,354 --> 00:16:04,724 Absolutely. This is a good spot. 332 00:16:04,754 --> 00:16:06,554 How you doing? 333 00:16:06,594 --> 00:16:08,824 I've been smoking some of your product, 334 00:16:08,854 --> 00:16:10,254 so if I'm a little unfocused... 335 00:16:12,254 --> 00:16:13,754 Before this you did? 336 00:16:13,794 --> 00:16:16,724 - What's that? - Before... Before this, yes. 337 00:16:16,754 --> 00:16:18,524 He said, what, what, what, what? 338 00:16:29,194 --> 00:16:30,754 Mamnoon is a modern take 339 00:16:30,794 --> 00:16:32,994 on traditional Syrian and Lebanese food. 340 00:16:33,024 --> 00:16:35,394 And it's done well. 341 00:16:38,294 --> 00:16:40,994 There's baharat spiced beef and lamb kebabs... 342 00:16:42,524 --> 00:16:44,554 Fried cauliflower with tahini... 343 00:16:46,454 --> 00:16:49,324 A summer fatteh with local squash and charred tomatoes 344 00:16:49,354 --> 00:16:53,594 topped with sizzling brown butter and pine nuts. 345 00:16:53,624 --> 00:16:56,524 That's sweet-and-sour rice wrapped in grape leaves. 346 00:16:58,624 --> 00:16:59,994 This looks so good. 347 00:17:00,024 --> 00:17:01,894 The hummus is great. 348 00:17:01,924 --> 00:17:03,044 This is my favorite cuisine. 349 00:17:06,094 --> 00:17:08,554 So how's business? 350 00:17:08,594 --> 00:17:10,494 It's been an interesting three years, 351 00:17:10,524 --> 00:17:12,094 because I feel like every year 352 00:17:12,124 --> 00:17:13,994 we've been, like, refining the process 353 00:17:14,024 --> 00:17:15,494 and trying to get better. 354 00:17:15,524 --> 00:17:16,830 We're the little guys. Right now 355 00:17:16,854 --> 00:17:18,524 we're mom-and-pop. 356 00:17:18,554 --> 00:17:20,824 Yeah, we're the mom-and-pop, but see, the difference is 357 00:17:20,854 --> 00:17:23,254 Washington State set up the law 358 00:17:23,294 --> 00:17:25,324 to try to help mom-and-pops get started. 359 00:17:25,354 --> 00:17:27,424 How did you convince the family? 360 00:17:27,454 --> 00:17:28,994 - Yeah. - This must have seemed like 361 00:17:29,024 --> 00:17:31,654 a sketchy venture. 362 00:17:31,694 --> 00:17:33,154 - Yes. - It was a gamble. 363 00:17:33,194 --> 00:17:34,824 He said, hey, I got a family meeting. 364 00:17:34,854 --> 00:17:36,994 I need you here tonight. 365 00:17:37,024 --> 00:17:38,370 And we're all sitting there and he puts on 366 00:17:38,394 --> 00:17:39,924 his little PowerPoint on the TV, 367 00:17:39,954 --> 00:17:42,324 and it's about 32 pages, and he tells us, 368 00:17:42,354 --> 00:17:44,094 "Hey, we need to go to Mason County, 369 00:17:44,124 --> 00:17:45,724 grow a ton of weed," 370 00:17:45,754 --> 00:17:47,530 and we're all like, what are you talking about? 371 00:17:47,554 --> 00:17:50,094 And my mom raises her hand and she goes, "Wait, 372 00:17:50,124 --> 00:17:51,724 I have something really important." 373 00:17:51,754 --> 00:17:54,394 We all look at her and she goes, "I wanna be RandD. 374 00:17:54,424 --> 00:17:57,554 Can I smoke and tell you if the weed is good?" 375 00:17:57,594 --> 00:18:00,494 And then all of a sudden he starts moving. 376 00:18:00,524 --> 00:18:03,094 My business plan ended at "get a license." 377 00:18:03,124 --> 00:18:05,524 To get a license it was to build a fence, 378 00:18:05,554 --> 00:18:06,824 put up some cameras... 379 00:18:06,854 --> 00:18:08,394 - Right. - And get out the way. 380 00:18:08,424 --> 00:18:10,170 Then they'll come, give you a final inspection, 381 00:18:10,194 --> 00:18:11,400 and now you are licensed to grow weed 382 00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:13,154 in the State of Washington. 383 00:18:13,194 --> 00:18:14,570 How many people grow weed, do you think, 384 00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:16,424 in the Seattle, Washington State region? 385 00:18:16,454 --> 00:18:18,154 - Oh, yeah, there's a lot. - There's a lot. 386 00:18:18,194 --> 00:18:20,094 There's over 1,100 producer processers 387 00:18:20,124 --> 00:18:21,524 in Washington State 388 00:18:21,554 --> 00:18:24,894 and about 400 licensed retail stores. 389 00:18:24,924 --> 00:18:26,654 We... everybody's going to win. 390 00:18:26,694 --> 00:18:28,830 There's so many people of all different types that smoke weed. 391 00:18:28,854 --> 00:18:31,594 We did a store visit and we saw people come in and out, 392 00:18:31,624 --> 00:18:34,254 grandmas, moms, professionals. 393 00:18:34,294 --> 00:18:36,724 Like, I'm sure if that store took demographics 394 00:18:36,754 --> 00:18:37,994 of their clientele... Right. 395 00:18:38,024 --> 00:18:39,154 They would have a spectrum 396 00:18:39,194 --> 00:18:40,994 of different type of people. 397 00:18:41,024 --> 00:18:42,994 People like to get high. 398 00:18:43,024 --> 00:18:45,024 What do they want these days? 399 00:18:45,054 --> 00:18:46,494 There's so many choices. 400 00:18:46,524 --> 00:18:48,194 Our biggest seller are the pre-rolls. 401 00:18:48,224 --> 00:18:49,894 People like ready-made cannabis. 402 00:18:49,924 --> 00:18:51,524 They want to buy and get high. 403 00:18:51,554 --> 00:18:53,230 - Loose joints. - Loose joints, most people... 404 00:18:53,254 --> 00:18:54,994 - Really? - They don't... people don't 405 00:18:55,024 --> 00:18:56,230 like to roll their own... They don't know how 406 00:18:56,254 --> 00:18:57,854 to roll joints. No. 407 00:18:57,894 --> 00:18:59,494 People, teach your children well. 408 00:18:59,524 --> 00:19:01,994 I mean, this is a basic life skill. 409 00:19:02,024 --> 00:19:03,500 - What do you smoke? - Well, I like to smoke... 410 00:19:03,524 --> 00:19:05,494 As I... as I said, I like to smoke weed. 411 00:19:05,524 --> 00:19:08,994 Now, the Alaskan Thunder... it was an irresistible package. 412 00:19:09,024 --> 00:19:10,694 - Alaskan Thunder... - Yeah. 413 00:19:10,724 --> 00:19:12,894 That's old-school Hells Angels, 414 00:19:12,924 --> 00:19:14,430 that's their... that's their old-school strain. 415 00:19:14,454 --> 00:19:15,994 - Did you smoke it? - Yeah. 416 00:19:16,024 --> 00:19:17,654 I can't compare and contrast, 417 00:19:17,694 --> 00:19:19,894 because I've been trying them all one after the other. 418 00:19:19,924 --> 00:19:21,494 Right. 419 00:19:21,524 --> 00:19:23,854 I mean, I've been smoking weed since I was 13. 420 00:19:23,894 --> 00:19:25,424 - Right. - You know, all the bad shit 421 00:19:25,454 --> 00:19:27,354 that... that was supposed to happen if you, 422 00:19:27,394 --> 00:19:29,854 you know, smoked too much weed, didn't really happen. 423 00:19:29,894 --> 00:19:32,494 But looking into my own life, 424 00:19:32,524 --> 00:19:34,494 you know, I've seen my ambition, 425 00:19:34,524 --> 00:19:38,154 you know, there were things I was thinking about doing 426 00:19:38,194 --> 00:19:39,830 but, you know, once I start smoking some good weed, 427 00:19:39,854 --> 00:19:42,494 it's like... eh. 428 00:19:53,794 --> 00:19:57,024 Okay, I'm good. 429 00:20:06,254 --> 00:20:08,354 In a nondescript-looking building in Bellevue, 430 00:20:08,394 --> 00:20:10,854 some very smart people are looking into things 431 00:20:10,894 --> 00:20:13,354 like how to stop hurricanes before they happen... 432 00:20:15,054 --> 00:20:16,554 Ending malaria, 433 00:20:16,594 --> 00:20:19,494 and how to make the perfect hamburger. 434 00:20:19,524 --> 00:20:22,524 Nathan Myhrvold is the former Chief Technology Officer 435 00:20:22,554 --> 00:20:24,224 of Microsoft. 436 00:20:24,254 --> 00:20:26,724 A genius, an inventor, and a very wealthy man 437 00:20:26,754 --> 00:20:29,094 who's free to indulge his passions, 438 00:20:29,124 --> 00:20:32,854 most noticeably for cooking and all things food. 439 00:20:34,394 --> 00:20:36,154 Over the last years, he and his team 440 00:20:36,194 --> 00:20:38,224 have published an incredibly lavish 441 00:20:38,254 --> 00:20:40,054 an authoritative series of books, 442 00:20:40,094 --> 00:20:41,754 "Modernist Cuisine," 443 00:20:41,794 --> 00:20:44,154 dedicated to debunking popular misconceptions 444 00:20:44,194 --> 00:20:46,324 and documenting the results with the best 445 00:20:46,354 --> 00:20:49,554 high-tech photography and graphic art imaginable. 446 00:20:53,424 --> 00:20:56,724 Head chef Francisco Migoya is leading the team 447 00:20:56,754 --> 00:20:58,494 into a new mission now, 448 00:20:58,524 --> 00:21:01,324 demystifying bread for all of us. 449 00:21:03,894 --> 00:21:06,324 People like me, 450 00:21:06,354 --> 00:21:08,894 someone who's cooked his whole life, 451 00:21:08,924 --> 00:21:11,254 I live in terror of... Of bread, 452 00:21:11,294 --> 00:21:13,924 Anything that rises, in fact, 453 00:21:13,954 --> 00:21:16,354 like a horse, senses my fear... 454 00:21:17,454 --> 00:21:19,094 and insecurity, and misbehaves. 455 00:21:19,124 --> 00:21:22,424 I mean, I'm tenuous with any doughs. 456 00:21:22,454 --> 00:21:24,330 You know, I've seen people who work with it all the time. 457 00:21:24,354 --> 00:21:25,570 They're slapping it around like it's nothing. 458 00:21:25,594 --> 00:21:29,354 I'm... like this and it always goes wrong on me. 459 00:21:29,394 --> 00:21:31,094 It's just never... Yeah. 460 00:21:31,124 --> 00:21:33,324 Quite right. Will your work help me in my... 461 00:21:33,354 --> 00:21:35,024 It will help you, Tony. 462 00:21:36,454 --> 00:21:39,754 Bread is actually amazingly robust. 463 00:21:39,794 --> 00:21:41,924 Although we've got lots of recipes, 464 00:21:41,954 --> 00:21:43,994 recipes aren't as important 465 00:21:44,024 --> 00:21:46,424 as understanding sort of the fundamentals 466 00:21:46,454 --> 00:21:47,654 of what's going on. 467 00:21:47,694 --> 00:21:50,154 And once you do, 468 00:21:50,194 --> 00:21:52,594 it's... it's really quite forgiving. 469 00:21:55,024 --> 00:21:57,094 Few things are more mysterious 470 00:21:57,124 --> 00:22:00,354 and unknowable than the bagel. 471 00:22:00,394 --> 00:22:03,324 Can one, perhaps, create the perfect bagel 472 00:22:03,354 --> 00:22:05,994 and with toppings that don't fall off? 473 00:22:06,024 --> 00:22:08,554 As a New Yorker, I'm inclined to say no, 474 00:22:08,594 --> 00:22:11,324 but now I... I'm not sure. 475 00:22:11,354 --> 00:22:13,854 And what is this, bread in a jar? 476 00:22:13,894 --> 00:22:15,694 But... but what? 477 00:22:15,724 --> 00:22:17,194 What... what is going on here? 478 00:22:17,224 --> 00:22:19,394 This is the kind of sick thing we do. 479 00:22:19,424 --> 00:22:22,654 We wondered, could you can bread? 480 00:22:22,694 --> 00:22:25,054 By God, you can. 481 00:22:25,094 --> 00:22:28,594 This is rum babas... Oh, I love them. 482 00:22:28,624 --> 00:22:30,330 Which is a bread in the sense it uses yeast... 483 00:22:30,354 --> 00:22:32,094 - Yes. - And we canned them. 484 00:22:33,411 --> 00:22:38,481 Now, watch what happens when we open it up. 485 00:22:38,511 --> 00:22:41,681 Isn't that awesome? 486 00:22:44,511 --> 00:22:46,111 It's really good. 487 00:22:46,141 --> 00:22:48,611 And how long will this stay in there? 488 00:22:48,641 --> 00:22:50,781 Nine months and it's good. 489 00:22:50,811 --> 00:22:52,617 So I'd have perfectly fresh bread in nine months 490 00:22:52,641 --> 00:22:55,141 if I just pop the top on that thing? 491 00:22:57,711 --> 00:23:00,841 Look, you know, jaded cooks and chefs like me... 492 00:23:02,541 --> 00:23:05,441 They still find there are certain unknowables 493 00:23:05,481 --> 00:23:08,681 or things that cause them to pause in the kitchen 494 00:23:08,711 --> 00:23:11,841 and gaze with wonder at the magic 495 00:23:11,881 --> 00:23:13,281 of something like bread. 496 00:23:13,311 --> 00:23:15,341 Aren't you afraid that in some way 497 00:23:15,381 --> 00:23:17,941 you're doing Satan's work here by quantifying magic? 498 00:23:17,981 --> 00:23:20,211 Food is a very romantic thing. 499 00:23:20,241 --> 00:23:23,141 It's usually experienced at best 500 00:23:23,181 --> 00:23:24,611 in an emotional way. 501 00:23:24,641 --> 00:23:25,711 Absolutely. 502 00:23:25,741 --> 00:23:29,981 By explaining it... Absolutely it's emotional. 503 00:23:30,011 --> 00:23:31,481 Absolutely it can be art. 504 00:23:31,511 --> 00:23:34,141 But knowing how to do it right, 505 00:23:34,181 --> 00:23:35,841 to me, doesn't diminish that. 506 00:23:35,881 --> 00:23:38,811 Hmm. 507 00:23:45,541 --> 00:23:47,541 Across the water from my hotel 508 00:23:47,581 --> 00:23:50,441 in the Puget Sound, just outside the city limits, 509 00:23:50,481 --> 00:23:53,841 the wilderness opens up and it's beautiful. 510 00:23:55,481 --> 00:24:03,181 Lord of fire in the sky Getting level neon devil 511 00:24:03,211 --> 00:24:10,511 Holy, holy in my mind To abide and crucify 512 00:24:10,541 --> 00:24:19,141 With blue, blue sea Far away 513 00:24:32,481 --> 00:24:36,941 On Vashon Island, a clambake with Dungeness crab, 514 00:24:36,981 --> 00:24:39,941 spot prawns, mussels, corn, and potatoes 515 00:24:39,981 --> 00:24:43,041 covered in kelp and steamed together under burlap. 516 00:24:43,081 --> 00:24:46,281 Old-school. 517 00:24:46,311 --> 00:24:52,541 Lord of fire in the sky Getting level..." 518 00:24:52,581 --> 00:24:58,881 - Dig in. - Neon devil Holy, holy in my mind 519 00:24:58,911 --> 00:25:11,541 To abide and crucify With blue, blue sea Far away 520 00:25:13,541 --> 00:25:15,311 Chefs Grant Crilly and Chris Young 521 00:25:15,341 --> 00:25:16,981 worked with Nathan at Modernist Cuisine 522 00:25:17,011 --> 00:25:19,181 before breaking off to do their own thing, 523 00:25:19,211 --> 00:25:21,441 ChefSteps, a high-tech outfit 524 00:25:21,481 --> 00:25:23,281 dedicated to help people cook better 525 00:25:23,311 --> 00:25:25,011 with step-by-step video apps 526 00:25:25,041 --> 00:25:26,941 and interactive content. 527 00:25:28,381 --> 00:25:29,657 Essentially the way we look at it is 528 00:25:29,681 --> 00:25:31,681 our job is to help people cook, 529 00:25:31,711 --> 00:25:33,657 cook a meal for their family, cook a meal for their friends 530 00:25:33,681 --> 00:25:36,281 where they're happy and didn't know they could cook that well. 531 00:25:36,311 --> 00:25:37,981 - Yeah. - 'Cause we're kind of 532 00:25:38,011 --> 00:25:39,641 technologists, too, 533 00:25:39,681 --> 00:25:41,711 we think, you know, there's a roll for technology, 534 00:25:41,741 --> 00:25:43,841 but there's also a roll for... for craft 535 00:25:43,881 --> 00:25:45,341 and tradition. 536 00:25:45,381 --> 00:25:47,611 I think there's an element of uncertainty 537 00:25:47,641 --> 00:25:50,511 and risk that is very exciting to me when I cook. 538 00:25:50,541 --> 00:25:52,111 You know, it's the imperfections in life 539 00:25:52,141 --> 00:25:53,611 that are most interesting. 540 00:25:53,641 --> 00:25:55,881 If everybody knew how to sauce pasta correctly, 541 00:25:55,911 --> 00:25:57,941 I don't know that that would make me happier. 542 00:25:57,981 --> 00:26:00,511 The kitchen is a pretty scary place for a lot of people, 543 00:26:00,541 --> 00:26:03,041 and so if... if you can bring technology 544 00:26:03,081 --> 00:26:05,381 and it takes that fear away because they know that 545 00:26:05,411 --> 00:26:07,017 it's gonna come out well, they're gonna be happy 546 00:26:07,041 --> 00:26:09,041 with the result, that'll get them to cook again. 547 00:26:09,081 --> 00:26:11,881 Coming from the guys who, you know, wrote "Modernist Cuisine," 548 00:26:11,911 --> 00:26:14,781 we're trying to find that 21st-century blend 549 00:26:14,811 --> 00:26:16,617 between YouTube and Instagram and technology... 550 00:26:16,641 --> 00:26:18,381 - Right. - And tools like that 551 00:26:18,411 --> 00:26:20,181 with the things that are great about cooking, 552 00:26:20,211 --> 00:26:21,781 which is sharing a meal. 553 00:26:21,811 --> 00:26:23,617 I think you're missing a central dynamic here. 554 00:26:23,641 --> 00:26:25,941 I mean, why do people Instagram pictures of food? 555 00:26:25,981 --> 00:26:28,611 To share their wonderful eating experience? No. 556 00:26:28,641 --> 00:26:30,857 It's to make other people feel bad about what they're eating. 557 00:26:30,881 --> 00:26:34,781 It's like, look, I'm eating all these incredible crabs 558 00:26:34,811 --> 00:26:36,781 and you're sitting at home in some, you know, 559 00:26:36,811 --> 00:26:38,311 dirty underwear eating Doritos. 560 00:26:38,341 --> 00:26:39,781 I mean, hopefully. 561 00:26:39,811 --> 00:26:41,641 I mean, Doritos are pretty tasty. 562 00:26:55,511 --> 00:26:57,611 It is probably unfair to suggest 563 00:26:57,641 --> 00:27:00,281 that the Pacific Northwest and Seattle area 564 00:27:00,311 --> 00:27:02,981 could have been home to a disproportionally large number 565 00:27:03,011 --> 00:27:05,711 of serial killers, but I'll do it anyway. 566 00:27:05,741 --> 00:27:07,657 - Shucked Taylor oysters here. - Wonderful. Thank you. 567 00:27:07,681 --> 00:27:08,957 Anything else I can grab you gentlemen? 568 00:27:08,981 --> 00:27:10,281 Oh, I'm good for now. 569 00:27:10,311 --> 00:27:12,441 Good for now? All right, enjoy. 570 00:27:12,481 --> 00:27:15,811 I'm gonna try a Fat Bastard, that sounds interesting. 571 00:27:15,841 --> 00:27:18,881 Fred Moody is a writer and bartender. 572 00:27:18,911 --> 00:27:22,141 Jack Whisner is a transit planner for King County Metro. 573 00:27:22,181 --> 00:27:25,041 And Knute Berger is a journalist and columnist 574 00:27:25,081 --> 00:27:26,141 for "Seattle Weekly." 575 00:27:26,181 --> 00:27:28,881 Old-school Seattle all. 576 00:27:28,911 --> 00:27:31,941 Taylor Shellfish Oyster Bar in Pioneer Square 577 00:27:31,981 --> 00:27:33,941 is old-school, too. 578 00:27:33,981 --> 00:27:37,311 The Taylor family has been farming more than 12,000 acres 579 00:27:37,341 --> 00:27:39,481 of tidelands in the Puget Sound, 580 00:27:39,511 --> 00:27:41,441 Willapa Bay, and the Hood Canal 581 00:27:41,481 --> 00:27:45,941 for over five generations, since 1890. 582 00:27:45,981 --> 00:27:48,611 With three restaurants in town, they know what they're doing. 583 00:27:48,641 --> 00:27:50,311 Are you gonna eat these whole? 584 00:27:50,341 --> 00:27:52,611 Head, tail, bones and all? 585 00:27:52,641 --> 00:27:54,611 Yes. 586 00:27:54,641 --> 00:27:56,841 Whole, local smelt flash fried 587 00:27:56,881 --> 00:28:01,311 and served with pepperoncini sambal aioli, 588 00:28:01,341 --> 00:28:03,381 local Dungeness crab cooked and chilled 589 00:28:03,411 --> 00:28:05,111 with pickled ginger sauce, 590 00:28:05,141 --> 00:28:07,611 and oysters, lots of oysters. 591 00:28:09,711 --> 00:28:13,111 Seattle has been for... For a very long time 592 00:28:13,141 --> 00:28:15,041 considered one of the more foodie, 593 00:28:15,081 --> 00:28:16,657 for lack of a better word, foodie cities. 594 00:28:16,681 --> 00:28:18,641 - Yeah. - If you ask me why, generally 595 00:28:18,681 --> 00:28:20,857 it's said the sheer abundance of really good ingredients. 596 00:28:20,881 --> 00:28:23,511 Yeah, exactly. I mean, you got the ocean there. 597 00:28:23,541 --> 00:28:27,111 You've got cattle country and orchard country 598 00:28:27,141 --> 00:28:28,881 just over the mountains. Yeah. 599 00:28:28,911 --> 00:28:30,617 They say one of the things that's changed in Seattle 600 00:28:30,641 --> 00:28:32,541 is there's not just the Pike Place Market 601 00:28:32,581 --> 00:28:34,511 but every neighborhood has a market now. 602 00:28:34,541 --> 00:28:36,281 - Has a green market. - Yeah. 603 00:28:36,311 --> 00:28:38,781 So those entrepreneurs have a place to sell. 604 00:28:38,811 --> 00:28:41,511 They can go to all the markets or just some of them, 605 00:28:41,541 --> 00:28:43,341 but it's really fantastic. 606 00:28:43,381 --> 00:28:45,841 So everybody born and bred in Seattle? 607 00:28:45,881 --> 00:28:47,281 I was, yeah. 608 00:28:47,311 --> 00:28:49,041 - Born here? - Yes. 609 00:28:49,081 --> 00:28:50,681 Bellingham, which is... 610 00:28:50,711 --> 00:28:52,317 Oh, sure, serial killer capital of the world. 611 00:28:52,341 --> 00:28:53,941 There's a bar there 612 00:28:53,981 --> 00:28:55,941 where both Ted Bundy and the Green River Killer 613 00:28:55,981 --> 00:28:57,611 had been patrons, yeah. 614 00:28:57,641 --> 00:28:59,311 Bundy was born in Tacoma and that's... 615 00:28:59,341 --> 00:29:01,041 - Right. - There are two, right? 616 00:29:01,081 --> 00:29:02,617 - The Hillside Strangler... - Hillside Strangler also. 617 00:29:02,641 --> 00:29:04,341 - Also the Beltway Sniper. - Right. 618 00:29:04,381 --> 00:29:05,887 The worst one was the Green River Killer. 619 00:29:05,911 --> 00:29:07,311 Yeah. 620 00:29:07,341 --> 00:29:09,011 Why is Seattle, the Pacific Northwest, 621 00:29:09,041 --> 00:29:11,881 such a magnet for serial killers? Any theories? 622 00:29:11,911 --> 00:29:13,941 You know, people come here to hide out. 623 00:29:13,981 --> 00:29:17,011 They... they think, well... they look at the map and it's like... 624 00:29:17,041 --> 00:29:19,841 Got two mountain ranges are just a couple hours away. 625 00:29:19,881 --> 00:29:23,281 Literally, you can hide bodies like a short drive 626 00:29:23,311 --> 00:29:24,611 from wherever you are. 627 00:29:24,641 --> 00:29:26,311 So convenient body dumping? 628 00:29:26,341 --> 00:29:27,681 Body dumping. 629 00:29:27,711 --> 00:29:29,181 I mean, that's gotta be part of it. 630 00:29:29,211 --> 00:29:30,611 You have all that lush greenery. 631 00:29:30,641 --> 00:29:32,611 If you're looking to dump a body, Seattle. 632 00:29:32,641 --> 00:29:34,481 Yeah. 633 00:29:34,511 --> 00:29:36,841 I've always thought the rain was kind of part of it. 634 00:29:36,881 --> 00:29:39,681 You got to that stretch from maybe October 635 00:29:39,711 --> 00:29:42,711 to February, and by the time you're in February, 636 00:29:42,741 --> 00:29:45,287 I mean, you... you want to... you want to become a serial killer. 637 00:29:45,311 --> 00:29:46,787 I mean, you know. That's part of it. 638 00:29:46,811 --> 00:29:48,781 But apparently you can. 639 00:29:50,711 --> 00:29:54,441 Is Seattle a teeming hive of serial killers? 640 00:29:54,481 --> 00:29:57,811 Or am I just an idiot with a morbidly overactive imagination 641 00:29:57,841 --> 00:30:02,341 and an attraction to the dark, ugly side of life? 642 00:30:02,381 --> 00:30:05,511 Meet retired homicide detective Mike Ciesynski 643 00:30:05,541 --> 00:30:07,381 who, for over 12 years, 644 00:30:07,411 --> 00:30:09,711 specialized in cold cases in the region. 645 00:30:09,741 --> 00:30:12,511 We meet at the Shanghai Room in Greenwood 646 00:30:12,541 --> 00:30:14,941 where Fred Moody tends bar. 647 00:30:14,981 --> 00:30:17,881 The North Star Diner next door provides nourishment. 648 00:30:17,911 --> 00:30:20,941 Crab, bacon, and melted cheese is, 649 00:30:20,981 --> 00:30:23,111 when discussing dump sites and ligature marks, 650 00:30:23,141 --> 00:30:24,841 a must. 651 00:30:24,881 --> 00:30:28,041 Why does it seem that there's a disproportionate number 652 00:30:28,081 --> 00:30:31,981 of serial killers in the Seattle and Washington State area? 653 00:30:32,011 --> 00:30:33,857 Do you have a theory on that? Well, I don't think 654 00:30:33,881 --> 00:30:36,341 that most serial killers are... are... went shopping 655 00:30:36,381 --> 00:30:37,611 for areas where they live. 656 00:30:37,641 --> 00:30:39,681 This is just where they ended up. 657 00:30:39,711 --> 00:30:41,381 - Mm-hmm. - When you're a detective 658 00:30:41,411 --> 00:30:43,441 for as long as I've been a detective 659 00:30:43,481 --> 00:30:46,041 and you're around very evil people, 660 00:30:46,081 --> 00:30:48,157 it's a place where I don't want you to have to come and look at 661 00:30:48,181 --> 00:30:49,711 through my eyes. 662 00:30:49,741 --> 00:30:51,781 I mean, I can talk to you about it and all that, 663 00:30:51,811 --> 00:30:53,787 but I hope you never have to see it like I seen it, 664 00:30:53,811 --> 00:30:55,787 'cause, you know, it's not a... It's a different place. 665 00:30:55,811 --> 00:30:58,181 It's a place you don't want to be, and... 666 00:30:58,211 --> 00:31:00,641 How many... how many working serial killers 667 00:31:00,681 --> 00:31:02,281 do you think are out there right now 668 00:31:02,311 --> 00:31:04,141 in the Washington State area? 669 00:31:04,181 --> 00:31:06,611 I would say, I mean, easily right now, 670 00:31:06,641 --> 00:31:09,711 easily over 75 people out here 671 00:31:09,741 --> 00:31:12,441 that are probably serial murderers. 672 00:31:12,481 --> 00:31:15,181 The FBI list it as... - Whoa! 75. - Oh, yeah. 673 00:31:15,211 --> 00:31:16,811 I don't care how nice it is here, 674 00:31:16,841 --> 00:31:19,541 you know, fun Seattle and stuff, you know. 675 00:31:19,581 --> 00:31:22,611 I know how many evil people are running around here. 676 00:31:24,211 --> 00:31:26,611 So... 677 00:31:26,641 --> 00:31:28,457 do you think these guys are holding down regular jobs? 678 00:31:28,481 --> 00:31:30,811 Well, yeah. They can... they can just go on 679 00:31:30,841 --> 00:31:32,511 and have their, you know, regular, 680 00:31:32,541 --> 00:31:34,211 what would seem to us as a regular life. 681 00:31:34,241 --> 00:31:35,641 They could also have wives. 682 00:31:35,681 --> 00:31:37,211 Yeah, I was wondering about that. 683 00:31:37,241 --> 00:31:38,841 I always wonder about the wives. 684 00:31:38,881 --> 00:31:41,341 It's like, don't you notice, you know, the mementos 685 00:31:41,381 --> 00:31:43,981 and the unusual odor coming from the crawl space? 686 00:31:44,011 --> 00:31:45,781 I mean, what... John Wayne Gacy, exactly... 687 00:31:45,811 --> 00:31:47,387 - I mean, what the... - you know, and just 688 00:31:47,411 --> 00:31:49,211 what's with the whole clown outfit? 689 00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:51,811 I mean, first of all, all you gotta do is put on a clown suit 690 00:31:51,841 --> 00:31:53,781 and already you're... You're a suspect. 691 00:32:07,011 --> 00:32:14,611 I have given to you, Jane A torn and tattered love 692 00:32:14,641 --> 00:32:18,511 But do you hear the tolling bells 693 00:32:18,541 --> 00:32:22,341 That ring down from above? 694 00:32:22,381 --> 00:32:26,381 I Thought I'd rule like Charlemagne 695 00:32:26,411 --> 00:32:34,281 But I've become corrupt Now I crawl the promenade 696 00:32:34,311 --> 00:32:40,611 To fill my empty cup And you're free 697 00:32:42,211 --> 00:32:47,841 You're free again One more time 698 00:32:52,641 --> 00:32:54,511 Mark Lanegan is to my mind 699 00:32:54,541 --> 00:32:56,881 one of the greatest living singer-songwriters 700 00:32:56,911 --> 00:32:58,541 making music today. 701 00:32:58,581 --> 00:33:00,611 His songs and lyrics 702 00:33:00,641 --> 00:33:03,211 reflective of a long, hard life 703 00:33:03,241 --> 00:33:05,281 cut me right down to the bone. 704 00:33:05,311 --> 00:33:07,041 His career has spanned two decades 705 00:33:07,081 --> 00:33:09,781 beginning with the Screaming Trees in the '90s 706 00:33:09,811 --> 00:33:11,111 and continuing through numerous 707 00:33:11,141 --> 00:33:12,681 brilliant collaborations 708 00:33:12,711 --> 00:33:14,351 with artists like Queens of the Stone Age, 709 00:33:14,381 --> 00:33:19,541 PJ Harvey, Kurt Cobain, Unkle, Mad Season, 710 00:33:19,581 --> 00:33:22,141 The Gutter Twins, Isobel Campbell, 711 00:33:22,181 --> 00:33:24,711 and Massive Attack. 712 00:33:24,741 --> 00:33:28,181 Maybe you know him from such theme songs as... 713 00:33:28,981 --> 00:33:30,811 this show. 714 00:33:37,411 --> 00:33:39,611 Wow. 715 00:33:39,641 --> 00:33:41,381 Spicy. 716 00:33:41,411 --> 00:33:44,011 Yeah, that's good. 717 00:33:44,041 --> 00:33:46,941 Dinner with Mark and touring guitarist Jeff Fielder 718 00:33:46,981 --> 00:33:50,311 at Ocho in Ballard, 719 00:33:50,341 --> 00:33:52,441 where they serve up generous drinks 720 00:33:52,481 --> 00:33:54,541 and Spanish-influenced tapas. 721 00:33:57,011 --> 00:34:00,181 You grew up around, what, two, two hours outside of Seattle? 722 00:34:00,211 --> 00:34:02,181 Yeah, in Eastern Washington, 723 00:34:02,211 --> 00:34:05,111 which is like the countryside, 724 00:34:05,141 --> 00:34:07,711 ranching, farming community. 725 00:34:07,741 --> 00:34:09,811 You don't live here anymore. You live in L.A. now? 726 00:34:09,841 --> 00:34:11,281 Yeah. 727 00:34:11,311 --> 00:34:13,811 How long since you left? 728 00:34:13,841 --> 00:34:15,941 Oh, it's been 20 years. 729 00:34:15,981 --> 00:34:17,281 Oh, wow. 730 00:34:17,311 --> 00:34:18,681 But I come back here, you know, 731 00:34:18,711 --> 00:34:20,281 a couple times a year. I play shows. 732 00:34:20,311 --> 00:34:22,711 I still have family in... In the city, 733 00:34:22,741 --> 00:34:25,441 and I think of it as home, still. 734 00:34:25,481 --> 00:34:30,181 You know, I always will. 735 00:34:30,211 --> 00:34:32,481 It's just... 736 00:34:32,511 --> 00:34:35,041 It's the home I don't live in anymore. 737 00:34:36,911 --> 00:34:40,811 Will you put on that long white dress 738 00:34:42,481 --> 00:34:47,841 While I burn when there's no more Tomorrows? 739 00:34:49,411 --> 00:34:51,111 Will you walk with me underground 740 00:34:53,541 --> 00:34:59,941 And forget all the sadness And the sorrows? 741 00:34:59,981 --> 00:35:02,811 Ba da da da 742 00:35:05,011 --> 00:35:08,311 Ba da da da da 743 00:35:13,581 --> 00:35:15,787 So how long have you been playing music professionally? 744 00:35:15,811 --> 00:35:18,781 Well, kind of the whole time, you know. 745 00:35:18,811 --> 00:35:21,641 I mean, I played my first gigs when I was 13. 746 00:35:21,681 --> 00:35:24,941 I've been touring with... With Mark 747 00:35:24,981 --> 00:35:26,781 since about 2010. 748 00:35:26,811 --> 00:35:30,111 What was the first band, first time you were ever onstage? 749 00:35:30,141 --> 00:35:32,011 And where was it? 750 00:35:32,041 --> 00:35:34,381 It was in my hometown, I was 15, 751 00:35:34,411 --> 00:35:38,211 and some guys I worked in a restaurant with 752 00:35:38,241 --> 00:35:39,841 had a band. They were older. 753 00:35:39,881 --> 00:35:43,481 And I sang at one pool party that they had. 754 00:35:43,511 --> 00:35:46,881 What was the set list there, covers or? 755 00:35:46,911 --> 00:35:48,681 A lot of Van Halen. 756 00:35:48,711 --> 00:35:50,141 Oh, wow. 757 00:35:50,181 --> 00:35:51,311 Styx. 758 00:35:51,341 --> 00:35:53,011 Oh, brutal. 759 00:35:59,041 --> 00:36:02,611 You have played and played with a lot of different people 760 00:36:02,641 --> 00:36:04,681 from different styles of music. 761 00:36:04,711 --> 00:36:07,611 I think a lot of musicians I know and have met would... 762 00:36:07,641 --> 00:36:09,441 Would have a hard time with that. 763 00:36:09,481 --> 00:36:12,281 You seem to move effortlessly around. 764 00:36:12,311 --> 00:36:15,211 I don't know, I've just been blessed 765 00:36:15,241 --> 00:36:16,981 with a lot of opportunity. 766 00:36:17,011 --> 00:36:19,611 I get to play with a lot of people whose music I really love 767 00:36:19,641 --> 00:36:22,641 so I'm happy. 768 00:36:24,181 --> 00:36:26,681 You know, after having been in my own band for many years, 769 00:36:26,711 --> 00:36:28,781 and suddenly, like, I'm taking jobs 770 00:36:28,811 --> 00:36:31,441 where I'm just playing part of somebody's set, 771 00:36:31,481 --> 00:36:32,841 at first it was a little awkward, 772 00:36:32,881 --> 00:36:36,011 but then I grew to really love doing it 773 00:36:36,041 --> 00:36:40,111 because it was easy and fun 774 00:36:40,141 --> 00:36:42,481 and there was no pressure. 775 00:36:42,511 --> 00:36:44,611 I did that for quite a few years, 776 00:36:44,641 --> 00:36:47,311 and I'm available to do that again 777 00:36:47,341 --> 00:36:49,541 if anybody wants me. 778 00:36:53,511 --> 00:37:01,941 On the marble street A procession spills in 779 00:37:01,981 --> 00:37:08,311 At the White Sea wall Waves crash and crash again 780 00:37:11,041 --> 00:37:14,111 Darkness shining 781 00:37:15,311 --> 00:37:18,781 Then disappearing 782 00:37:19,981 --> 00:37:23,941 Day follows night Night follows day 783 00:37:27,811 --> 00:37:33,481 Good-bye Good-bye to beauty Good-bye 784 00:37:33,511 --> 00:37:36,111 Good-bye to beauty 785 00:37:37,811 --> 00:37:40,441 You... are you at all sentimental 786 00:37:40,481 --> 00:37:43,711 about how Seattle used to be? 787 00:37:47,481 --> 00:37:50,941 You know, I guess it's... 788 00:37:50,981 --> 00:37:53,781 It's like being sentimental about grade school 789 00:37:53,811 --> 00:37:56,111 or, you know, any time of your life 790 00:37:56,141 --> 00:37:58,511 that isn't around anymore. 791 00:37:58,541 --> 00:38:01,341 I miss... I miss some of the guys that were around then 792 00:38:01,381 --> 00:38:03,011 that aren't around anymore, you know, 793 00:38:03,041 --> 00:38:07,941 some of my friends, but, you know, that's life. 794 00:38:07,981 --> 00:38:11,281 Good-bye to beauty 795 00:38:46,311 --> 00:38:47,681 Next to making a proper omelet 796 00:38:47,711 --> 00:38:49,641 or like wiping your own ass, 797 00:38:49,681 --> 00:38:52,211 knowing how to roll a joint 798 00:38:52,241 --> 00:38:54,041 is an essential life skill 799 00:38:54,081 --> 00:38:57,381 for any self-respecting member of society in my view. 800 00:38:57,411 --> 00:38:59,641 Pay attention, people. 801 00:39:14,981 --> 00:39:18,181 Can you stay here next to me? 802 00:39:20,311 --> 00:39:23,041 We'll just keep drivin' 803 00:39:25,841 --> 00:39:29,011 Because of you I see a light 804 00:39:31,311 --> 00:39:36,611 The Buick's a Century A '73 like you 805 00:39:38,411 --> 00:39:40,841 Some strange religion 806 00:39:43,641 --> 00:39:47,111 I get my hands on some money, Mama 807 00:39:48,381 --> 00:39:50,711 And a shot in the night 808 00:39:54,811 --> 00:39:59,611 Stared down the past and just scarred my eyes 809 00:40:01,881 --> 00:40:06,111 I almost called it a day so many times 810 00:40:07,811 --> 00:40:12,141 Never known what it felt like to be alive 811 00:40:15,381 --> 00:40:18,281 Till you been a friend to me 812 00:40:18,311 --> 00:40:24,111 Like nobody else could be Mm 813 00:40:36,481 --> 00:40:40,841 Keep my hands on the wheel now, mama 814 00:40:40,881 --> 00:40:43,281 Gonna honestly try 815 00:40:47,541 --> 00:40:51,941 She looked past the scars and the burned out eyes 816 00:40:54,981 --> 00:40:58,611 You could see I'm no easy ride 817 00:41:00,841 --> 00:41:05,281 She's just the kind who might get you to buy 818 00:41:07,981 --> 00:41:10,211 Some strange religion 819 00:41:13,541 --> 00:41:17,281 This jack of diamonds kicked her heart around 820 00:41:19,011 --> 00:41:23,311 Should-a known they were walking on holy ground 821 00:41:26,811 --> 00:41:30,111 And this life might eventually 822 00:41:30,141 --> 00:41:37,611 Just be the end of me Will I still be with you Mm 823 00:41:40,241 --> 00:41:43,181 Then get in next to me 824 00:41:45,211 --> 00:41:47,281 Just keep drivin' 825 00:41:50,581 --> 00:41:53,781 Because of you I been alive 826 00:41:55,641 --> 00:42:01,611 And the Buick's a Century A '73 like you 827 00:42:03,581 --> 00:42:05,981 Some strange religion 828 00:42:09,581 --> 00:42:14,841 And the Buick's a Century A '73 like you 829 00:42:16,981 --> 00:42:19,281 Some strange religion